Palm Oil and Habitat Loss: An Interview with Helen Buckland of the Sumatran Orangutan Society

Just saw this — can’t wait to hear it, considering the plethora of vegan processed foods that contain palm oil. I’ve been pretty disturbed by an attitude among vegans of “well, it’s better to have Earth Balance than have people eat dairy” rather than “oh shit, let’s find a solution.”
Among vegans this shouldn’t even be a debate: palm oil kills animals, you stop eating it.
Looking forward to this one!

Thanks, Lauren. I’m glad to hear you’re back!

This was indeed a good show; too short, though, and I’d like to hear more addressing of the vegan complicity in this horror. I realize that a LOT of foods, not just vegan ones, contain palm oil, but I suppose it’s the non-critical adulation of Earth Balance by vegans that I find very closed-minded. In the passion to convert people to veganism, we may not look hard enough at some of the underlying issues of the ways we do that — ie, with food that comes from some of the worst transgressors of animal lives and the environment (and probably human labor as well): Silk/White Wave, Lightlife, Hain/Celestial — unfortunately the list goes on and on.
The opening story about the cupcakes was great — except, I thought, I bet that frosting is made from an Earth Balance and sugar base (and oh the environmental problems with sugar!)
I’m not really sure what the answer is; I know I love both sugar and cupcakes, but there was a time I loved cheese, too.
Still, people who would balk at eating frosting-less vegan cupcakes might eagerly devour them. Or someone who might prefer dairy creamer might find Silk to be palatable or even a tasty substitute.
It can be complex.